中華民國110年10月28日
蔡英文總統日前接受「美國有線電視新聞網」（CNN）專訪，針對區域及台海情勢、台美關係、兩岸關係、台灣國際參與、錯假訊息攻擊、婚姻平權、半導體產業發展及全球供應鏈、氣候變遷及能源轉型等議題，回應媒體提問。
在正式專訪問答前，針對台灣近日所面臨之複雜區域情勢，總統表示，台灣的故事是堅韌不屈的奮鬥史，我們將堅定抵禦中國的軍事威脅，且世界不能缺少台灣這股良善力量。
總統談話全文：
今年的國慶講話，我告訴台灣人民，台灣正面臨區域的複雜情勢，以及空前的挑戰。我注意到，有部分國際媒體報導，台灣人面對挑戰時，冷靜而不焦慮。我想我們今天就從這裏開始談起。
In this year's National Day address, I told the people of Taiwan that Taiwan is facing a complex regional landscape and unprecedented challenges. I've noticed that some international media reported on the Taiwanese people's calmness and not becoming anxious in the face of challenges. I think this can be a good starting point for our conversation today:
台灣的故事是堅韌不屈的奮鬥史。面對近來中國人民解放軍的軍事活動，外界不禁要問，為什麼台灣人民可以保持冷靜，一切如常。這並不是台灣人對日益加劇的軍事活動無感，事實上，我們冷靜但也警覺，因為自第二次世界大戰結束後七十多年以來，台灣人歷經的政治或其他方面的挑戰和危機從沒少過。
The story of Taiwan is one of resilience. Recent PLA military activities have made people outside ask why Taiwanese people remain calm and business goes on as usual. It's not that Taiwanese people are not sensitive to the much intensified military activities of the PLA. In fact, we are calm but alert. It is because the Taiwanese people have never been short of challenges and crises, political or otherwise, in the past seven decades since the end of World War II.
例如，1958年中國企圖軍事入侵金門的823炮戰、1970年代退出聯合國和外交斷交潮、長達38年的戒嚴時期、1996年的台海導彈危機，以及1997年的亞洲金融風暴，我們也度過了2003年的SARS，並控制住這次COVID-19的疫情。
For instance, the attempted Chinese military invasion of Kinmen in1958, loss of UN membership and most of our diplomatic allies in the1970s,38 years of rule under martial law, the missile crisis in1996, and the financial crisis in1997. We also survived the SARS epidemic in2003, and the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.
台灣克服了一次次的挑戰，在此同時，我們從貧窮走到繁榮，從威權走到民主。台灣的歷史告訴我們，只要我們意志堅定，相信自己，一定會找到屬於自己的生存興盛之道。這就是台灣的「韌性」。
Taiwan has again and again come through challenges. At the same time, we have progressed from poverty to prosperity, and advanced from authoritarianism to democracy. The history of Taiwan tells us that if we are firm and believe in ourselves, we will definitely find our own path to survive and thrive. And this is the resilience of Taiwan.
雖然我們面對中國不斷增強的威脅，我們的經濟仍以相當驚人的速度持續成長，獲國際機構評比為全球最具競爭力的經濟體之一。我們有強大的高科技產業、高素質且全球化的勞動力，以及開放、透明、健全的市場。
While we are under increasing threats from China, our economy continues to grow at a very impressive rate and is rated by international institutions to be one of the most competitive economies in the world. We have a strong high-tech industry, a high-caliber and globalized workforce, and an open, transparent, and healthy market.
我們已經向世界證明，我們不但挺過來了，還是全球經濟和供應鏈不可或缺的夥伴。
We have actually proven to the world that we are not only surviving well, we are also an indispensable part of the global economy and supply chain.
我們想要成為世界的積極參與者和助力；當然，台灣的持續生存和繁榮需要全世界的支持。民主和自由是我們的生活方式，也是我們和世界連結、交友之道。
We want to be an active participant and a helpful force to the world; and of course, we need the support of the world for the continued survival and prosperity of Taiwan. Democracy and freedom is our way of life, and how we make friends and connect with the world.
我們每天面對中國在台海及區域的軍事擴張，中國從未放棄對台的軍事企圖。我要強調，「台灣不會屈服於壓力，也不會冒進」。但是，如果我們的民主和生活方式遭受威脅，台灣必將竭盡全力捍衛自己。
We are faced with China's military expansion in the Taiwan Strait and in the region every day. China has never abandoned its military ambition toward Taiwan. I want to emphasize that Taiwan will not bend to pressure, nor will it turn adventurist. But if our democracy and way of life are threatened, Taiwan will do whatever it takes to defend itself.
我們將持續強化自我防衛能力，並提升不對稱戰力。台灣也準備好和區域行為者合作，確保區域和平穩定與繁榮發展。
We will continue to increase our self-defense capabilities and asymmetric warfare capabilities as well. Taiwan is also prepared to work with regional actors to ensure regional peace, stability, and prosperous development.
然而，更大的挑戰是，境外勢力利用諸如錯假訊息、滲透等手段，分裂台灣社會，這是台灣每天所面臨的重大挑戰。當外部勢力企圖用台灣的民主制度來傷害台灣的民主生活方式時，台灣人民已變得更有意識、也更有能力應對這樣的侵擾行徑。我們願意和遭受此類侵擾的國家分享經驗。我要說的是，這樣的挑戰不會很快就結束，只要中國的企圖心還在，挑戰就永無盡頭。
However, a bigger challenge comes from the disinformation, infiltration, and other tactics deployed by external forces to polarize Taiwan's society. This is a major challenge that Taiwan faces every day. As external forces attempt to use Taiwan's democratic system to disrupt Taiwan's democratic way of life, the Taiwanese people have become more aware and capable in responding to such corrosive behavior. We have experiences which we would like to share with other countries faced with such intrusions. However, I want to say that this challenge will not end soon. It will last as long as China's ambition is there.
當威權政權展現擴張的企圖，民主國家應該合作，捍衛共同的價值，而台灣就站在全球民主社群的最前線。
When authoritarian regimes demonstrate expansionist intentions, democratic countries should come together to safeguard their shared values. Taiwan stands on the front lines of the global democratic community.
台灣也是全球供應鏈安全、可靠的合作夥伴，是值得信賴的國際貿易夥伴。
Taiwan is also a secure and reliable partner in global supply chains, and a trustworthy partner in international trade.
在我們開始致力維護共同利益、捍衛共同價值之際，台灣就處在關鍵的位置上。我相信，世界不能缺少台灣這股良善力量。
Taiwan is situated in a critical position, as we all embark on the endeavor to protect our common interests and defend our shared values. I believe the world cannot do without Taiwan, a force for good.
總統問答內容如下：
問：昨天在寺廟裏，您說民主難免紛亂，但值得捍衛。我認為這真的非常重要，因為台灣的民主也有紛亂的狀況，在議場上爭吵。您正好相反，準備周全，如此精準，但當這個體制遭受攻擊時，您會加以捍衛，您要傳達給世界的訊息為何？
Q: You said something at the temple yesterday. That democracy is messy but it is worth defending. And I thought that was really, really important, because here in Taiwan democracy is messy. People have brawls in the parliament. You are the opposite of that. You are just so prepared and precise. And yet you are defending this system at the time that it is truly under attack. What is your message to the world?
總統：人們有時對民主制度會有所疑慮，因為民主有時候會造成混亂，民主體制可能沒有預期的那麼有效率，民主過程可能還很冗長，但我們的經驗是，民主制度或許有讓人批評之處，但「民主仍然是最好的制度」。
A: People have doubts about democratic systems, because sometimes it can create chaos and democratic institutions may not be as efficient as you want them to be. Democratic processes may be tedious, but the experience we have is that despite all of these things you want to be critical about, a democratic system is still the best.
問：您認為民主受到攻擊嗎?
Q: Do you feel democracy is under attack?
總統：是的。因為每天都有如此多的錯假訊息，人們各有所圖在發動這些錯假訊息，基本上，是想擾亂政府。
A: Here it is. Every day there are so many disinformation campaigns going on here. People carry out all these campaigns with different intentions. But essentially they want to disrupt the government.
問：錯假訊息的源頭？
Q: Where is disinformation coming from?
總統：境內、境外都有。
A: From all the sources, externally and internally.
問：是來自中國？來自中國大陸？
Q: Is it from China? From mainland China?
總統：有些來自中國。
A: Some of the attacks are from China.
問：您認為目的是在製造對您政府的質疑嗎？
Q: Do you think the purpose is to create doubt in your government?
總統：是的，也是製造對民主的質疑。
A: Yes, and create doubt in democracy.
問：您們擁有全世界最自由開放的互聯網，這會讓您們更容易受到錯假訊息的攻擊嗎？
Q: You have one of the most free and open internet systems in the whole world. Does that make you more vulnerable to the source of these attacks?
總統：在某種程度上，是的。因為網絡上有太多的訊息，人們太習慣在網絡上接收訊息、閱讀新聞。網絡上流傳的訊息，有時沒有經過權威人士或可靠人士的證實或確認。如果不快速澄清或糾正錯誤，就會擔心人們可能會被誤導。
A: To a certain extent, that is right. There is so much information flowing around on the internet, and people are so used to going on the internet to receive information to read news. Sometimes some information is not checked or confirmed by people with authority or credible people. If you are not fast enough to make clarifications or correct whatever mistake, you are concerned that people may be misled.
問：貴國政府對錯假訊息的因應，不是審查或關閉，而是更加透明？
Q: Your government's response to disinformation has not been to censor it or to shut down, but actually to become more transparent.
總統：是的，沒錯。這就是我們從COVID-19疫情中所學習到的。我們設立中央指揮中心，每天召開疫情說明的記者會，回答媒體或民眾的所有問題，澄清一切，以免民眾被誤導。
A: Yes, and this is what we have learned from the COVID-19 exercise. We set up a command center which gives a news brief every day. They have sat down and answered all of the questions from the press or the general public. They want to clarify everything that needs to be clarified so that people will not be misled.
問：一個2,300萬人口的小島如何抵禦一個15億人口、軍事花費是台灣15倍的威權政體？
Q: How does a small island of23 million people defend itself against one and a half billion people of an authoritarian regime that spends15 times than what you do in defense?
總統：我認為，最重要的是台灣人民的意志、對民主自由的信念，以及保衛我們所擁有的民主自由和民主生活方式的意志，這是所有台灣人民認為值得捍衛的事情。
A: I think the most important thing is the will of the people here and their belief in democracy. The will to defend our democratic freedom and democratic way of life. This is something all Taiwanese believe in, which is worthwhile defending.
問：您說「人民的意願」，是指參與民主過程？還是入伍從軍？
Q: When you say people participate in the democratic process, do you mean enlisting in the military?
總統：是指各個面向。參與民主過程很重要，這樣人們的聲音才能被聽到，人民的意見在民主過程中很重要。如果人民有意願保衛台灣，我認為年輕一代，正如民調顯示，覺得他們有義務當兵，或者擔任社會很重要的一員，挺身捍衛台灣的民主。
A: In every aspect. It is important for them to participate in the democratic process, so that they can get their voice heard. Their opinions matter in a democratic process. Also, if people have the will to defend Taiwan, many polls suggest that the younger generation think that they have an obligation to defend it as a soldier or as an important member of society, to defend Taiwan's democracy.
問：隨着逐步取消徵兵制，有些人說，台灣必須成為實質上的軍政國家，支出更多國防經費，才能因應中國的軍事升級。您提到輕鬆的心情，和台灣人民雖然保持警戒，但生活依然如常。您認為台灣人民是否了解，一旦北京決定要收回他們認為是自己的，在這情況下，可能會發生的事？
Q: But you are phasing out conscription. Some have said that Taiwan will have to essentially be a garrison state and spend so much more on defense and actually engaging China in a sort of military escalation. You talked about the relaxed mood and the fact that Taiwan people are vigilant but they go on with their lives. Do you think the people of Taiwan are aware of what could happen if Beijing decided this is when they are taking back what they think is theirs?
總統：如我說過，我們並未對當前情勢鬆懈。實際上，民眾對於威脅的嚴重性相當有所感受。重要的是，我們沉着而警覺地面對情勢，因為我們經歷過許多挑戰和危機，人民現在都相當有韌性，相信我們做得到，信守我們認為十分珍貴的價值。
A: But as I have said, we are not relaxed about the situation now. In fact, people are sensitive enough to know the seriousness of this threat. But we are calm and very alert to the situation. Because we have gone through so many challenges and crises in the past. People are generally very resilient now, and they believe in what we can do and believe in the values that are considered very valuable to us.
問：今天的台灣是否比2016年您上任時更安全？
Q: Is Taiwan more safe today than it was when you became President in2016?
總統：這要看如何定義。中國的威脅日益加劇，但是台灣人民了解當前處境，我們必須更加團結，並準備好捍衛我們所擁有的一切。這很重要。我們需要讓大家知道我們的處境，為將來做好周全的準備。國際社會也更加關注台灣和台海局勢。我們獲得越來越多的國際支持，這對台灣人民來說十分重要，也鼓舞人心，讓大家更有信心，只要我們竭盡所能，外界就會幫助我們。
A: Depending on how you define it. If it is the threat from China, it is increasing every day. But there is increasing awareness of the situation we are in. And a will is generating now that we will have to be more united and prepared to defend whatever we have now. This is important. You need people to know where we are—what we are in—and get prepared for whatever may happen in the future. Also, the international community now is more aware of the situation in Taiwan and the Taiwan Strait. We see more and more support from the international community, which is very important and encouraging to people in Taiwan. It makes them feel more confident. When we do what we can, the people outside will come to our aid.
問：美國的角色是？
Q: What is the role of the US?
總統：美國是台灣產品的最大市場，且幾乎是我們採購防衛武器的唯一來源，美國還提供台灣各種支援，讓我們能夠成為區域或國際的行為者，不那麼孤立。
A: The US has been our largest market for Taiwanese products. And almost our only source where we can acquire military weapons to defend ourselves. They also provide support to Taiwan so that we will be able to become an international actor or regional actor and less isolated.
問：包括派遣美軍人員協助訓練台灣軍隊嗎?
Q: Does that support include sending some US service members to help to train Taiwanese troops?
總統：我們和美國的合作很廣泛，目的在增強我們的防衛能力。
A: Yes, we have a wide range of cooperation with the US aiming at increasing our defense capability.
問：現在有多少美國軍方人員派在台灣?
Q: How many US service members are deployed in Taiwan right now?
總統：沒有大家想得那麼多。
A: Not as many as people thought.
問：像媒體昨天報導的幾十人嗎？
Q: Is it a couple of dozen like the reports yesterday?
總統：我們不討論細節。
A: Let's not be precise.
問：這消息流傳出去後，您認為對台灣和大陸的關係有幫助嗎？或是見諸報導後，您感到擔心？
Q: The fact that this information got out, do you think it is helpful in your relationship with the mainland? Were you concerned then or now that it has been reported?
總統：很多報導中，有些是事實，有些則不是那么正確。民眾會接收到許多資訊，決策者有責任做正確的決定，不該被單一訊息所影響。
A: Well, there are a lot of reports, some are facts but some are not quite correct. You have so much information around. Decision makers who are responsible for making the right decision should not be affected by any single piece of information.
問：美國正在想方設法擴大台灣參與聯合國。您支持這些討論嗎？您希望台灣在聯合國扮演更積極的角色嗎？
Q: The United States is looking for ways to try to expand Taiwan's participation in the United Nations. Do you support those discussions? Would you like a greater role at the UN for Taiwan?
總統：當然。這是台灣所有政黨都支持的立場，我們希望有機會成為聯合國體系有意義的參與者。
A: Of course, that has been a position that is supported by all the political parties here. We want to have an opportunity to be a meaningful participant in the UN system.
問：您擔心中國的反應嗎？當您採取作為，而這些大門也敞開後，您是否擔心遭遇反彈？
Q: Do you worry about what China's reaction would be as you take these steps, as these doors are opened? Do you worry that there could be a backlash?
總統：不擔心。我們表達希望成為聯合國體系的一部分，而中國也有他們自己的立場，就讓國際社會去評定。
A: No. I think that it is a situation where we have expressed our hope that we want to be part of the UN system, and China has their story to tell, and it is for the international community to judge.
問：美國拜登總統上周說，如果台灣遭到攻擊，美國會防衛台灣。有些人認為，他的說法打破了維持過去數十年穩定的長期戰略模糊。當您聽到那樣的說法時，是否也有一樣的顧慮？
Q: When President Biden said last week that the US has the commitment to defend Taiwan in the event of an attack, some have said that it takes away some of the impact of long-standing strategic ambiguity, which has helped maintain stability over the last decades. Did you have that concern when you heard those remarks?
總統：大家對拜登總統的談話有不同的解讀。但是，我說過，我們的處境是不能依片面資訊就做決定，而是必須考量各種狀況、各種因素，才能為人民做出正確的決定。
A: People have different interpretations of what President Biden has said. But as I said, we are in the situation where your decision is not going to be based on a single piece of information—a decision must take into account all the situations and also all the factors, and then you make the right decision for your people.
問：如果大陸企圖進犯台灣，您有信心美國會防衛台灣嗎？
Q: Do you have faith that the United States would defend Taiwan if the mainland were to try to move on Taiwan?
總統：基於我們和美國長期友好關係，我們也有美國人民、國會與政府的支持，皆給予我們很多助益。我對此有所信心。
A: I do have faith given the long-term relationship that we have with the US, and also the support of the people of the US as well as the Congress and the administration, which has been very helpful.
問：您是領導人。就目前情形來說，您說過保衛台灣是首要之務。
Q: You are the leader of the island. As things stand, you said it is a priority to defend the island.
總統：如果我們有自我防衛的決心，我們會盡全力保衛自己，外界就會來幫助我們，這是中國解放軍是否能成功入侵的重要決定性因素。
A: Let me tell you that if we have the will to defend ourselves and we put in all sorts of efforts, then we can defend ourselves. I think people would come to our aid, and that is a very important determining factor in deciding whether the PLA would succeed in its invasion.
問：包括日本把導彈部署在鄰近台灣的島嶼上，未來還要派遣軍隊？
Q: Does that include Japan, which is now putting missiles on an island near Taiwan, with troops to follow in the coming months?
總統：台灣並不孤單，因為我們是民主國家，我們尊重自由，愛好和平，與區域內大多數國家有共同的價值。我們在地理上也具有戰略重要性。所以，我認為確保台灣安全是區域內國家的共同利益。
A: Taiwan is not alone, because we are a democracy. We respect freedom. We are peace lovers. We share values with most of the countries in the region. Geographically, we are of strategic importance as well, so I think countries in the region have a common interest to make sure that Taiwan is safe.
問：如果台灣的民主被接管，會如何？後果會是什麼？不單指台灣，而是泛指全世界。
Q: What happens if Taiwan's democracy is taken over? What would be the consequences for not just Taiwan, but for the world at large?
總統：首先，對區域而言，看到台灣的情形，大家會擔心自己所擁有的民主是否會遭到破壞。並且，也會擔心是否會受到外來勢力的約束，而無法自己做決定。
A: First of all, for the region: the people in the region would be concerned that their own democracy is going to be ruined because they could see the situation in Taiwan. And also, people would be concerned whether they would be subjected to any source of constraint from external sources and therefore be unable to make decisions for themselves.
問：您曾指出，台灣代表的是捍衛民主的未來，這裏發生的事可能改變世界秩序。
Q: You have actually written that Taiwan represents the fight of the future of democracy, and that it could actually change the world order depending on what happens here.
總統：我認為，台灣像是一座燈塔，兩千三百萬人民每天很努力地保衛自己和民主，確保享有應得的自由。這也是其他人想要的。所以，一旦我們失敗了，這意味着信守這些價值的人們，將懷疑這些價值是否值得奮力爭取。
A: Yes. I think we are a beacon of some sort. Here23 million people try hard every day to protect themselves and protect our democracy and make sure that people have the kind of freedom they deserve. This is what other people want to have as well. So, if we fail, that means that people that believe in these values would doubt whether these values are worth fighting for.
問：您怎麼看待習近平？
Q: What do you make of Xi Jinping?
